Nominations Queries 2 - noms closing soon

[modzilla]

Thanks for your nominations and adjustments! The main nomination period closes TODAY at 11:59pm EDT 26 July. Please get your nominations in!

Please also help with our queries.

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Misplaced tags including DNWs - Nominator of Alex Rider and Malevolent, you seem to have included nominations for your preferred medium and DNWs. Please remove those. Please either comment here or email me at mod.modzilla@gmail.com so we can check in about what I'm looking for in nominations.

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Crossover Fandom
Lieutenant Columbo (Columbo) & Creator’s Choice of Batfam (Wayne Family Adventures - webcomic) - Please specify who is included in Batfam?

Dangan Ronpa Series - we've already approved Dangan Ronpa 2. Could you please expand on what you're looking for here? Ideally we'd split this but we haven't made a final decision.

Dead Boy Detectives (TV) - Nominator of Edwin Paine tags, could you help us understand what you want, please? Paine seems to be the comics spelling, and we're not sure we understand what you're looking for from the Paine/Payne relationship tag.

Le Fantôme de l'Opéra | Phantom of the Opera & Related Fandoms - This is an All Media Types nomination. Nominator, were you thinking of any particular version, or if you really want All Media Types, please give more detail about why you'd prefer that?

Fire Emblem: Fuukasetsugetsu | Fire Emblem: Three Houses Please clarify which characters are meant by the Blue Lions.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood & Manga - Nominator of additional tags, something weird is happening with your submission. From our interface, it looks like you nominated nothing - a blank space - as a relationship?? I'm honestly impressed. Please supply your nominations page and let us know what you were hoping to add.

Good Omens (TV) - there are nominations for Nanny Ashtoreth and Brother Frances. These seem to be nominations for Aziraphale and Crowley. Please clarify? I will not approve nominations for characters at particular points in their lives/appearances if it's all the same character.

Marvel Cinematic Universe - Please check what has already been approved and split your nominations into movie sets.

Original Work
down-on-his-luck scholar/female general looking for a ruzhui husband (OW) - Could you please clarify what tropes you are expecting for a ruzhui husband or if this indicates any particular time period?

Dragon/Royal They Kidnapped/Knight Warring With Themself (OW) - Could you please clarify what you're looking for with the last character?

Royal Order (Visual Novel) - could we please get more information on Henry Seress and Nils Nerea? These characters are difficult to track down.

Star Wars Legends: Republic Commando Series - Karen Traviss - we have already approved Star Wars Legends - All Media Types. We will fold your nominations into this, or please let us know if you have an alternate suggestion.

陈情令 | The Untamed (TV) - for Lan Qiren/Wen Ruoban/Madam Wen (The Untamed), we can't seem to find Madame Wen. Please help us out?

Where is Trevor (ow comic) – sarriathmg - this original work is locked to users of Archive Of Our Own; could we please get direct confirmation that nomination into a fandom exchange is welcome?

Comments

[shadaras]

Does sarriathmg's Blanket Permission Statement count as enough of a direct confirmation, or would you prefer a statement about this work/fanwork exchanges in specific?

Madam Wen is an implied character in The Untamed; Wen Ruohan has children, and Madam Wen would be his wife/their mother.

[modzilla]

Thanks!

[shinsengumi]

I'm not the nominator, but as someone familiar with Fire Emblem: Three Houses, I'd interpret the Blue Lions as the current students from the Holy Kingdom of Faerghus. That's Dimitri, Dedue, Felix, Ingrid, Sylvain, Mercedes, Annette and Ashe. More here.

[modzilla]

Thank you! We can approve that, then.

[honse]

SW: RepComm nominator here-- that's perfect! Thank you

[modzilla]

Okay, great!

[(Anonymous)]

Hi! I'm Where is Trevor's nominator. The author of the comic has a blanket permission statement for recursive works on their ao3 profile, here: https://archiveofourown.org/users/sarriathmg/profile
I can also write to them and ask, if you would prefer it that way

[modzilla]

Thanks!

On reviewing their works, I had the initial impression that they rarely archive-lock their works, so I wanted to double-check that this was included. Going through in more detail, it looks like it isn't as rare as I thought, so we will approve this. I have also reached out to them for clarity.

[sarriathmg]

Hi, I'm the original author of this comic! I have no issues with this work being nominated! I sometimes archive-lock my OW art for unrelated reasons, but my blanket statement still includes all my works.

[(Anonymous)]

thank you <3

[modzilla]

Thank you for confirming that!

[tavina]

Hi! I am not the original nominator for either of these, but the Untamed Script Book/Behind the Scenes Character descriptions mentions that Madam Wen adopted Wen Qing and Wen Ning after their parents died (I can attempt to dig up the links for this if necessary! They're somewhere in the depths of my tumblr) so she is a confirmed (if dead and does not appear on screen) character for the show continuity.

A ruzhui marriage is a form of traditional Chinese matrilocal marriage! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_marriage#Ruzhui_marriage) this is as far as I know, not strictly limited to a specific time period or place across ancient China and occurred in several different dynasties. I think it's still more common in south China than north China, but this is kind of anecdata (there's some very cute Douyin videos of modern ruzhui wedding ceremonies and their traditions!)

[modzilla]

Thank you for the context!

[nemainofthewater]

Hello! I'm both the Untamed nominator (for Lan Qiren/Wen Ruohan/Madam Wen) and the down-on-his-luck scholar/female general looking for a ruzhui husband (OW) nominator.

For a ruzhui husband, this tends to indicate imperial-ish China setting. A ruzhui (or matrilocal) marriage was historically when a man would marry into a woman’s family (where they would live with the woman’s family, their children would get their mother’s family name) instead of the other way around.

This would often happen if there was a powerful or noble family (or just a rich one) who only had daughters, who would then recruit a son-in-law (often a younger son from a poorer or lower status family) to marry into the family and so continue the family name.

Tropes associated with it are mainly exploring societal expectations of different genders, namely how the ruzhui husband is able to navigate society and his family when he is the one in the 'wife's' position, linked here with the female general's implied unusual status in society compared to a normal woman of the time (as they would not be soldiers, let alone generals).

For the Untamed, as Shadaras said above, Madam Wen does not appear on screen in the tv series, but is implied to have existed as she would be the mother of two of the antagonists (Wen Xu and Wen Chao) and Wen Ruohan's wife.

Thank you for all your work, and please let me know if you want me to clarify further!

[modzilla]

Thanks for the explanation!

Will ponder this - I do have the rule All nominated characters should explicitly exist in the fandom where they're nominated. to avoid this tension for character who are-and-aren't OCs or where people may be uncertain about how much they get to make them up.

Thanks for explaining about ruzhui! It sounds as though anyone offering or requesting this could have the same level of confidence in the tropes involved as, say, someone offering "dragon & knight", so that sounds fine.

[modzilla]

Hello - on further thought I'll put through Implied Madame Wen, if that's okay.

[nemainofthewater]

Thank you!

[lavenderandrue]

Hey, I was the nominator for the OW Dragon/Royal/Knight tag! I was trying to avoid running up against character limit, but the idea was that the knight would be caught between duty and attraction to the dragon and royal in some way.

[modzilla]

Got it! Would something like "Dragon/Royal They Kidnapped/Knight Caught Between Duty/Attraction/? To The Other Two (OW)" work?

[lavenderandrue]

Yes, that would work!! Thank you!

[zetsubohoe]

Hi, Danganronpa nominator here! My reason for nominating under the DR series and not SDR2 is because none of the ships/characters I nominated actually appear in SDR2 as in, there are characters I nominated that do not appear in that game at all, so I assumed it would be more appropriate to nominate under the whole series; however, it is not a big deal at all to me either way and I'd be fine with them being lumped under SDR2 or anything else, whatever is easier for you!

[modzilla]

Hello, sorry not to be clear! We don't want to approve characters under Super Dangan Ronpa 2 that don't appear there. Could you clarify which games or other media they do appear in?

[zetsubohoe]

Oh, so sorry about misunderstanding you there! So Hijirihara Takumi is from Danganronpa Killer Killer, Naegi Komaru and Towa Monaca are from Danganronpa Ultra Despair Girls, and Enoshima Junko + Ikusaba Mukuro are primarily from Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc; some of the other characters actually do appear in SDR2 but I wasn't sure if I should nominate them under SDR2 if they're being shipped with characters from other media? So sorry for the confusion, if this is too much of a bother please feel free to disregard my nominations, I don't want to cause any difficulty on your end.

[modzilla]

Please don't feel you're causing any kind of unusual bother! We will check if the umbrella will work for the Dangan Ronpa 2 nominator, or we might need to move some of them to crossover nominations.

[(Anonymous)]

I nominated some Dangan Ronpa 2 and it's fine by me to move them to Dangan Ronpa Series.

[(Anonymous)]

hi, i'm one of the fma brotherhood nominee!! i...honestly have no idea what i was originally trying to do, i THINK i was trying to do worldbuilding or another character tag, but clicked out of it before i fully put it in?? regardless, if i could have char: lan fan and oth: worldbuilding tags added that would be great. i've tried to go to my nominations page to provide it, but it's giving me an error atm. if i can grab it before nominations close, i'll def post it here, but my username on ao3 is lesbian_xion, if that helps, so my noms should be under that username. sorry for any confusion!

[modzilla]

Thanks! If possible, could you give us your unique nominations page number? I realize you can't actually navigate to that page right now, but if you can go to the tag set:

https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326

and right click on My Nominations, you should get a link with a unique number in it (ie the # below will be replaced by actual numbers).

https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326/nominations/######

That may be helpful for us figuring out what bug is happening. But otherwise, sure, we'll add those in!

[(Anonymous)]

had to search through my history but i luckily found it. here it is: https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326/nominations/338728

and thank you so much for adding them! so sorry for the trouble <3

[modzilla]

Thanks for the link, it's really helpful!

Just checking, this might not work, but do either of the following links allow you to edit your nominations (and maybe get rid of some tags that are misbehaving - we can edit them back in later)?

https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326/nominations/338725/edit
https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326/nominations/338728/edit

[modzilla]

Hello again,

AO3 Support & AD&T have deleted the broken page at 338725, so hopefully you should be able to access your page at 338278 again. I've added Lan Fan & Worldbuilding manually to Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Manga - hopefully that covers your noms (let us know if not) and we'll get to approving the remaining ones soon.

[decay_ao3]

Hello! I'm the Royal Order nominator. RO is a romance visual novel with 3 routes/love interests and 3 different factions that you can choose to join. Nils Nerea is the faction leader for the Garrison, and is present in all 3 routes. He acts as an intelligence gatherer and as a method of checking the "suspicion" stat that you can gain, and is sometimes in conflict with the player depending on how you play. Henry Seress is a noble who is present in only one of the routes, where the player character is attempting to forge political alliances. Henry makes an extended diplomatic visit to the player character and is involved in a minor side plot with Nils, which the player can influence the ultimate outcome of.

The game is indie and pretty small, so there isn't a lot about it online, particularly about events deep into specific routes - but I'm more than happy to go through and pull screenshots or explain further/in a more explicit/spoiler way if that would help!

[modzilla]

Thank you, I appreciate the confirmation! We'll put it through.

[bardicraven]

Hope this isn't too late - just saw it a moment ago!

Crossover Fandom
Lieutenant Columbo (Columbo) & Creator’s Choice of Batfam (Wayne Family Adventures - webcomic) - Please specify who is included in Batfam?

Was hoping the label of 'Wayne Family Adventures' would help define it. Since it does not, I will try. I may be incorrect for some of it however, as the term does not originate with me.

Bruce Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, Cassandra Caine, Stephanie Brown, Barbara Gordon. I think that's everybody. No! Duke Thomas! He is also a member of the Batfam.

There may be others, but these are all the ones I know of for sure at this time.

Also, in re: the previous concern about Kelas Parmak. I took a chance to attempt to modify my noms and for some reason AO3 took it. I have added (ASIT) to the end of the previous disambig in hopes that will help, as I do not have the nom slots to pull the nom out separately, and I have not as of yet received a response to my request for clarification on what to do in that situation. I hope that will be enough as he is one of my faves and I will be disappointed to not have the chance to play.

Hope these help!

EtA: here's my nom link, in case that's helpful: https://archiveofourown.org/tag_sets/20326/nominations/338824

[modzilla]

Hello, thanks for the additional information!

I will ask if anyone else has ideas on Batfam. If the term doesn't have a clear set of characters associated with it that everyone can agree on, I'm afraid I don't think it is helpful as a tag set tag. Are there other ways we might be able to use a tag to arrive at you're looking for here - what were you hoping for from the tag?

I also replied to your earlier comment in this thread - linking for ease of reference for both of us.

https://fffx.dreamwidth.org/53252.html?thread=814084#cmt814084

[bardicraven]

'allo!
Most welcome!

I believe that Batfam DOES have a clear set of characters associated with it - especially in terms of the comic. The question is much more whether -I- know all of them or not, as I picked up the term from reading other people's fic and am also currently quite behind in the canon. Also, some like Barbara Gordon are a bit more peripheral in terms of not being either blood or adopted kin, and yet she is definitely part of the inner circle, so my headcanon says 'definitely', but she may or may not be official by more official canon.

Open to other suggestions that convey a similar intention-of-group!

As to what I was hoping for from the tag. I read a FANTASTIC set of fics featuring Columbo and various members of the Batfam. Don't remember either the titles or author at the mo', which is quite the pity. Anyway, when I saw the Q earlier about Columbo & it reminded me of those fics and just how much I enjoyed them.

The reason for the term is that I also have developed a hardcore adore for the Firefly/ST:DS9 crosover and with only six slots, I needed to compress greatly.

Bruce Wayne and Alfred are definitely up there in terms of individual loves, but I was also thinking if some of the kids and kin could come into it that could be quite fun also. And with the option of Creator's Choice of [group] it seemed like that might work wondrous-well for a combination of known and surprise.

So... if there's another term that would cover similarly, that would work wondrous-well!

Yup! Saw and just replied to the other comment - thank you for the link! It was very helpful.

Chirp, chirp!!
Birdy, BardicRaven

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not the nominator but the Edwin Payne tag the fandom uses for the TV show seems to be "Edwin Paine | Edwin Payne" so it probably just autofills as that?

[modzilla]

Thanks! In this case, Edwin Payne/Edwin Paine is nominated, so I think something else was intended?

[(Anonymous)]

hi, nominator here (sorry for the delay), it was what i intended, sorry!

[modzilla]

Thanks for confirming!

[(Anonymous)]

hi,
nominator for alex rider/malevolent here, can't remove the tags for some reason ao3 won't let me :(

[modzilla]

That's right - it's not possible to edit your nominations directly after the nominations period has closed.

The nominations period is just for submitting tags that will be matched on - you'll have a chance to enter Do Not Wants and prompts into your sign-up form later.

Let us know if you are missing any tags you'd like to add in your fandoms. But there will be another chance to add a couple of tags during sign-ups.